Microlensing event – Gaia21efs

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  • #575088
    Mr Roger Dymock
    Participant

    We have been asked by Siegfried Vanaverbeke to observe this object. Details are;
    RA 20:29:41.9 Dec +31:17:43
    Quiescent (Gaia) magnitude; 15.8
    Time between observations; 1.0 day
    Gaia alerts link (includes data and finder chart)
    http://gsaweb.ast.cam.ac.uk/alerts/alert/Gaia21efs/

     Advice to imagers

    To obtain the best approximation to Gaia magnitudes;
    1) Use a Sloan r’ filter
    or
    2) Use a Cousins R filter but ensure target is above 20 degrees altitude
    or
    3) If imaging unfiltered ensure target is above 45 degrees altitude
    and
    4) Use Gaia DR2 data for obtaining magnitudes of comparison stars – https://www.cosmos.esa.int/web/gaia/data-release-2

    If using Astrometrica select;
    1) Filter r’, R (Cousins) or Clear/None depending on filter used
    2) Color Band G
    3) Star Catalog Gaia DR2

    Please send observations to Roger Dymock. Email; roger.dymock’at’ntlworld.com

    Data required;

    Observing site
    Observer, name
    Photometric software
    Photometric Catalogue used
    Catalogue magnitude band
    Date and time (JD) e.g., 59403.391447
    Target e.g., Gaia21efs
    Filter used
    Magnitude
    Error

    #584888
    Robin Leadbeater
    Participant

    On it now with the ALPY200. I make it roughly mag 13.5 unfiltered off the spectrograph guider so significantly brighter than at quiescence.

    EDIT: I see that is consistent with the 13.64 V (APASS) at 16:20 today in the Gaia follow up data

    #584889
    Robin Leadbeater
    Participant

    The spectrum matches that of a highly reddened early K type star

    #584908
    Robin Leadbeater
    Participant

    It has now faded ~1.3 mag since the previous spectrum and there has been no significant change, supporting the microlensing hypothesis.

     Cheers

    Robin

    #584909
    Mr Roger Dymock
    Participant

    Hi Robin,

    What would you expect to see if it wasn’t a microlensing event? Be stars are often quoted as possibilities for example,

    Regards

    #584911
    Robin Leadbeater
    Participant

    Hi Roger,

    I saw a comment suggesting a Be star on the TNS discovery entry where it is AT2021ziw. I uploaded my spectrum there to eliminate that suggestion

    https://www.wis-tns.org/object/2021ziw

    but at the time the gaia team uploaded their discovery there it had only brightened by around 0.4 mag so I would have said the possibilities were pretty wide open at that point. That’s why a spectrum is useful.

    Not sure why a brightening Be star  would be singled out as a likely possibility, (there must be many mechanisms that can produce such an upward drift in brightness) but my first spectrum clearly eliminated that possibility and that given it looked like a pretty average K class star, probably many other alternatives. The shape and symmetry of  the light curve now pretty much seals it as microlensing and my second spectrum supports that. (Only a microlensing event or eclipsing binary would be expected to leave the spectrum unchanged through a significant change in brightness)  

    I see there is now another spectrum in TNS, taken using the 3.8m Seimei telescope. Although higher resolution the features are the same as in my spectra. (There is a bit of difference in continuum slope, possibly down to my choice of reference star.) 

    Cheers

    Robin

    #584912
    Mr Roger Dymock
    Participant

    Hi Robin,

    Thanks for the explanation. Do you think this event would be worth a paper in the JBAA?  I could do the handling of alerts and the photometry aspects but would look to you to cover the spectral side including how this confirms, or otherwise, a microlensing event.

    Regards

    #584913
    Robin Leadbeater
    Participant

    Hi Roger,

    Spectra can only rule out or support the microlensing hypothesis, not confirm it. (Any changes in the spectrum would have indicated a potential alternative cause  of the brightness change)  but yes I am happy for my spectra to be included in a paper/article for the JBAA and I can supply a paragraph of explanation. (I will leave it to others to judge its merit as I have little knowledge of the subject)

    Cheers 

    Robin

    #584918
    Dr Paul Leyland
    Participant

    Sounds good to me. Go for it!

    #584920
    Daryl Dobbs
    Participant

    I for one would love to see a paper on it in the JBAA

    #584924
    Mr Roger Dymock
    Participant

    Thanks for your comments – guess that means I am actually going to have to write it now –
    b-gg-r!!!

    #584954
    Mr Roger Dymock
    Participant

    Have decided not to go ahead with the paper for a couple of reasons;

    • observations dried up mostly due to bad weather at observing sights
    • previous publication by the BAA Variable Star Section in their recent circular

     Will wait until another good example arises.

     

    #584955
    Robin Leadbeater
    Participant

    As well as my classifying spectrum mentioned in VSSC 190, I now have four spectra following this event as it faded down to ~16.3 g. (No change within the uncertainties as expected)

     The spectra are in the BAA spectroscopic database but I will also put something on my BAA observations page sometime in the next few days with a few notes about them.

    Cheers

    Robin

    #584967
    Mr Roger Dymock
    Participant

    Robin,
    Probably an obvious question but I assume the spectra in your post are those of the source star. Would these not be ‘contaminated’ by the lens star?
    Regards

    #584968
    Robin Leadbeater
    Participant

    Yes the spectrum will be a blend but the lensing object must be very much fainter (or spectroscopically similar) as there is no evidence of any change in the spectrum even though the total brightness (driven by a change in the brightness of the lensed component) changed by a factor of ~25  (3.5 mag)  I am not an expert on lensing but I think once we have a complete model we may have a distance and mass for the lensing component. That would also give an idea of how far back in time they would have been resolvable. Perhaps historical deep images would show something? (Of course not if it is a black hole though)

    Cheers

    Robin

    #584969
    Robin Leadbeater
    Participant

    Here is a similar event back in 2006 which went from mag 11.5 to mag 7.5. There were several papers on this eg this one with members of the amateur community (BAA/CBA etc)  as co-authors

    https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2008ApJ…677.1268G/abstract

    which deduced the lensing object was likely a low mass star or brown dwarf. Their paper also suggested that it could be a a productive technique for discovering exoplanets.

    (I believe my first (crude slitless) spectrum was the earliest of this object which alerted the community that this was something unusual though as far as I know that was not mentioned in any of the subsequent papers). I remember there was considerable scepticism at the time as lensing of such a bright target was considered unlikely but there have been a few more bright ones since then. 

    Cheers

    Robin

    #584989
    Mr Roger Dymock
    Participant

    Hi Robin,

    Siegfried Vanaverbeke asks ‘Can an estimate of the angular size of the source star be derived from spectroscopy?’

    Regards

    #584990
    Robin Leadbeater
    Participant

    I can’t offhand think of any way this could be determined spectroscopically. Do you have a suggestion? I am guessing that might be one of the parameters in the light curve fit  but I don’t know the details. 

    Cheers

    Robin

    #584991
    Robin Leadbeater
    Participant

    The  angular size of the lensed star could be inferred from the Gaia parallax, the apparent magnitude and the spectral classification.

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